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Discussion in 'Ban Appeals' started by Commie, Jul 12, 2012.

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    I'm going to post this here because a lot of you are buying Brainlaag's bullshit.
    The course of events:
    On Qwai there's a bradley and stryker squad made, 2 seperate squads. I said over local during timer "Normally I'd have you 2 squads merge but right now it doesn't matter" because there were a total of 6 squads and 20 players on the team. I did not say "OMG you have to merge the squads because derp derp rules are saying so."
    I did not say they had to merge the squads, I was just clarifying the rules for them. Admins may choose to do whatever is best for the server, even if it falls outside of common rules, thats what I did. No, that's why I did. What you did was fail to comprehend the rules.
    Brainlaag comes in with some bullshit about how "That's only on the 100p layout"
    I start telling him over SL comms that he's wrong, then he puts something in teamchat about his misperceptions about the rules.

    Then I look up the rules and put it in the chatbox for him to see, I didn't feel it was worthy of a thread.

    Then he comes in with lies, and his lack of integrity really pisses me off. I took no action in enforcing a valid rule which wasn't relevant at the time, what he's saying is FICTION. Take some fucking responsabilty for your own failings brain, god damnit. I can forgive you didn't read the rules, I can take how you logged your conflict of opinion but starting this shit to save face is totally uncalled for.
    And don't say I'm lying, I never lie, ever. Nor is this shit worth lying over.
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    moved to admin forums.

    edit: nevermind, otherwise commie can't answer anymore . Moved to complaints :smile:
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    CopyCat CopyCat Special Reconnaissance Force

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    Why bother mentioning the rule in the first place if the fact that the server has 4 squad slots free and about 20 +/- missing? You couldn't just let it along... this sounds like some bs about APC squad and Armored squad (thank god we clarified that's 2 different things)...

    I agree with Brainlaag, his reaction was pretty normal due to you blowing this up bigger then it is as it seems, enforce rules when they are needed and required - not when you feel you gotta stand up and get heard... keep it simple, and as Wicca said, if there is more effective and simple way of handling the situation go with it and don't start and get stuck in an argument which places the community in a shadow or more E-drama.

    Peace eh ?

    /CC
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    Putting aside the content of the argument: The written rules on PRTA is the rules! This is your golden handbook and there are no "matter of speech rules that are not written down". Commie is right! If the rule that brainlaag said was there but is was not written down. I agree to CopyCats this is drama but is has to bee taken seriously as it is a complaint! No matter how little importance it may be for you it may be really fukin annoying for someone else. Anyway: I commented on this as miss enforcing of rules involving assets has previously pissed me off!
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    Brainlaag Brainlaag LeetyLeet

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    Did I hit a spot there?

    First of all, I don't have to justify to you for anything, you started writting shit in the chat box, I answered. You seem to be upset with how things went, for whatever reason.

    "OMG you have to merge the squads because derp derp rules are saying so." This sentence was not a quote from you, nor did I ever claim it. It was merely an exaggeration of how your were blowing up a banality like that and if anyone takes this as face coin, you should really check-up on your reading skills. You annoyed people through local chat and SL (not sure if it was direct chat only to me, or allchat), by mentioning rules, who didn't even apply. You might have had good intentions but in the end you took it the wrong way. Not only did you disrupt briefing by bringing it up (why in the first place? It wasn't even worth mentioning as no actions were required at all) but you also kept going through it and called me a retard in chat (correct me on this one, not sure if it was in that round), for telling you to easy up on the case as it was NOTHING game breaking.

    For the record, yes I did tell you that specific rule applies only to the 64+. However it was more of a bad choice of words on my side, implying that it should be enforced if there is a lack of space. As there was no overpopulation on the server (~42 players at the time), plenty of squads not filled and 4 squadslots still available, I was merely referring there is no need to go any deeper with that rule.

    This thread is absolutely redundant, you don't have to defend your "honor", or whatever, as I did not have the intention to somehow blame you for something but I rather took action to keep gameplay as smooth and enjoyable as possible without laying down burden on people for not following the rules at 100%. You disagreed and I wanted to show you the points, that speak in my favor and now it somehow turned out I'm a liar, staining your white suit.

    Thats why I always back my self up on this:

    1.4 The PRTA Admins must do their best to keep gameplay and teamwork levels as high as possible. If that includes warning and kicking players outside the ruleset to ensure gameplay, then the admins are well within their rights.

    You didn't see that one coming:tounge:

    Rules are a guidlines to help you to keep on the right path, not dogmas written in stone.
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    Its ok to discuss things. Its just one way of moving forward.

    If some of you find the discussion to hard, then stay out. Let the two main argumenters have their discussion, and contribute with your own oppinion. Calling a heated discussion unserious is not the right angle.

    The discussion is heated becuase they both care. And are passionate.
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    Brain you're quoting irrelevant rules and referencing events that never happened.
    I knew the rules, you thought you knew the rules, I corrected you.

    Now if anything you said actually happened, you'd be right. But it never happened.

    Complete procession of events:
    -I said over local during timer "Normally I would have you guys merge squad but right now it doesn't matter"
    Note:This is exactly what I said, word for word.
    -You disagree with me, saying "That's only on 100p layout" or some shit
    Note:I never took any administrative action; I just said what I said to clarify the rules so the players know for next time.
    -The round starts and I try and clarify over SL comms (Just to you)
    -You type some retarded shit in all caps on teamchat
    -The round ends, I go and put what the actual rules say in the chatbox
    -Then I put an annoyed message about you making up rules, which you did twice that day
    -You start lying your greasy ass off
    -People start believing you
    -You keep lying, constructing an elaborate series of events which never happened
    -People keep believing you

    The only reason I'm calling you a liar, is because you're lying.
    It's crazy you don't know the rules, and you lie all the time, and somehow you're more qualified to be an admin than me.
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